The Rapture Conspiracy

The Deep Origins of the Rapture Doctrine!

1/3/2015

Nothing stirs up a group of Christians more than the Rapture Doctrine! This video tells you the deep roots of where it all came from! You need to ask yourself the question from the enemies stand point of why a deception of a rapture would cause Christians to fall away..which is prophecy!

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Matthew 24:29-31

8 Comments

Steve

1/9/2015 01:39:50 pm

Hi Nicholson1968, Thanks for your new post, unfortunately I believe you're way off on this one. Some of the things in the video are interesting and quite compelling but cannot compare with the infallible word of God. “Let God be true, and every man a liar”! Rms 3:4 Lets forget about Edward Irving, Margeret MacDonald, Benny Hin... and stick to what the Book says. You say you believe the Bible is the inspired word of God? Then the bible will never contradict itself. I think your first mistake is assuming that when the trumpet sounds in 1Cor 15 it is referring to the the 7 Trumpets of Revelation 8-11. “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth”. 2Tim2:15 We need to get our dispensations right. I'm not a dispensationalist, but God does deal in dispensations, and we need to be able to RIGHTLY DIVIDE THE WORD. During the Great Tribulation God will be dealing with the Jews. Like in Mat. 24, the verse you have at the bottom of the video. It will be a time of Jacobs’s Trouble Jer 30: 4-7. It will be a time when Israel shall “Pass under the Rod” Ezek. 22:19-22 and be cast into “God’s melting pot” (see also Mal. 3:1-3, Zech 13:9,) Daniel says it’s the “Time of Trouble” for the Jews. Dan 12:1.
1Cor.15 on the other hand is written to the Church. God deals differently with the Church. We are his Bride and “have not been appointed to wrath.” 1Thes 5:9
The Rapture is not a secret or a heretical teaching like you state in the video. It is a fundamental bible doctrine we have been given in the word of God that we may “Comfort one another with” 1Thes4:18
“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and the TRUMP OF GOD: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are ALIVE and REMAIN shall be CAUGHT UP together with them IN THE CLOUDS, to meet the Lord IN THE AIR: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words.” 1Thes 4:16-18 The Lord’s gonna get us out of here Nicholson1968. I know it may not seem like it sometimes, and that the devil is running everything, but God is still in control and orchestrating every move in his sovereign will. He’s setting it all up for the Anti Christ, and the coming of our great God and King! So don’t lose heart and look up, lift up your head; for your redemption draweth nigh Lk 21:28
GRACE AND PEACE.

Michael

1/31/2015 04:30:14 am

Nicholson you are correct to reveal the deception of the "rapture pre tribulation" apostate teaching. In fact that teaching will cause the loss of countless souls because faith will be destroyed when they find themselves facing the very trumpet fulfillments that will surely occur. Those who fail to see that in the final analysis there will be only sheep and goats on this earth just prior to the second coming of Messiah, are under strong delusion. In Messiah there is no Jew or Gentile, no rich or poor, no bond or free. Spiritual Israel is not human bloodline Israel. Galatians 3:28 makes this clear. Bloodlines refer to the seed of the serpent and the bloodline of the Lamb....Father does not dispense different methods of salvation to different segments of the human family in different historical dispensations. All who are saved are saved through the blood of the Lamb...ALL...period! Those who are lost are lost by rejecting the unspeakable Gift of Messiah and His righteousness. Cain and Able are the first two examples of human beings who chose death or life....Able by faith demonstrated that his salvation was not by his own works, or works of the law and through that faith in the future Lamb of Yah he was counted acceptable....no dispensation....just the plain FACT that John 14:6 is absolute truth. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Nicholson1968 and every other human on earth are thus likewise saved.....or lost if they reject Messiah as the means of salvation. Very simple really.
Dispensationalism is a major deception. The pre trib rapture teaching is Jesuit in origin....a deadly deception to counter the reformation view that the papacy was the greatest manifestation of anti-Christ....this is the truth, believe it or not.

Steve

2/1/2015 08:27:48 am

Hi Michael, It’s easy to see how you can refer to an obvious biblical Doctrine (Pre-Trib Rapture) as an “apostate teaching” when you’ve got your bible all mixed up! I am not a dispensationalist, but any bible reader can clearly see that the bible is divided into two sections (Old Testament/New Testament). If a dispensation is defined as a period of time, then one can easily see that there are two distinct periods of time in the bible, and they are divided by Malachi 4 and Matthew 1. Old Testament Salvation and New Testament Salvation cannot be the same for the obvious reason that the two DIFFERENT Testaments had to be instituted (Heb. 7:19-22), and recorded (Luke 1:1-4). Anyone can see this at a glance if they read the bible through one time. The “better testament” (Heb. 7:22) is NOT the Old Testament (see 2 Cor. 3:14). No one in the Old Testament was “cleared” of their sins, even after their sins were forgiven (Exod. 34:7) and righteousness imputed to them (Rom. 4:1-6). No one in the Old Testament was placed into the body of Christ; no one in the Old Testament was born again, redeemed, regenerated… To say that their salvation was identical to Romans, chapters 4-5, 10; and Ephesians, chapter 2, is a huge error!
As far as everyone ultimately being classified as sheep and goats on the earth… You need to go back and read your bible. And that goes for the guy who taught you that garbage too! The judgment in Matt. 25:31-46 is a judgment of Gentile Nations. Read it. <~~ if you think that is the judgment for a Born again Child of God, and the judgment for an unsaved sinner, please explain 2 Cor. 5:10 and Rev. 20:11-15? The truth is you when you try to make the Bible teach something it doesn’t, it will always trip you up. We need to align ourselves with what the bible says, and not try to make the bible line up with what WE believe to be true.
“As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction” 2Pet 3:16
The only deception is not to believe what God says in his word.

Josh

2/19/2015 02:15:36 pm

I still believe in the pre trib rapture. It it very easy to know if it happens or not. It will happen in a TWINKLING OF AN EYE. Seeing something in the sky when we are supposed to MEET HIM IN THE SKY are two different things.

Luke 17:31-37
At the rapture men will be *translated in a moment*, in the twinkling of an eye (1 Cor 15:51-58) *but this event* will not be that sudden, for *man will have time to return from a field to the house. He is advised not to do so.* Therefore, this refers to the second advent and not to the rapture. And of course the rest of the context refers to as the days of Noah, Taken (destroyed) and the other will be *Left on earth to populate the millennium* They will be normal humans that did not receive the mark.

Not every person will know Christ has even landed on the planet earth until later (Isa 2:2-22; 66:19-21; Zech. 8:23).

Luke 12:45; Titus 2:13; 1 John 3:1-3 clearly shows the coming of Christ must be kept in the heart as a living hope whether we look for the rapture or the second advent. This means to except him at any moment.

So whether or not you agree with me, the message I like to get out is simply, don’t be obsessed with signs and focus more on being spotless and blameless, for the Lord. Make sure you are loving and forgiving. BE READY AT ANY MOMENT

Matthew 16
Jesus rebuked His lost sheep (the Jews) in His days on earth for MISSING is coming. We are talking 2,000 years ago. The Pharisees and the sadducees started tempting Jesus, wanting Him to show them a sign from heaven. Jesus called them Hypocrites and answered and said unto them, “When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red. And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?”

Jesus was NOT talking about the signs of his second coming but how they missed the SIGNS OF HIS FIRST COMING
He was saying they could discern details of the weather but could not discern prophetical signs of the times or plain prophecy attested by miracles by their OWN MESSIAH.
The many prophecies being fulfilled in John and Jesus constituted signs of the times of that day.

Then Jesus rebuked them for it and said “A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas.” And he left them, and departed.

I think the same applies today. I think the Lord is going to be upset with us if we miss His coming again 2,000 years later.

Titus 2:13 is the 1st and last prophecy in Titus. Men looked for the rapture even in that day, proving there is no definite time element in scripture for this event. See also Phil 3:20 Greek word "apekdechomai" - (Romans 8:19)

It is scriptural to look for the rapture or coming of the Lord in the air for the saints, to take place any time (v20; Titus 2:13) but not the second advent. (2 Thess 2:7; Rev 1:19; 4:1) The rapture and the second advent are two seprate events separated by at least 7 years. They are not two phases or two stages of one coming but two distinct coming - one coming in the air (not to earth) before the tribulation and other a coming to the earth immeidatley after the tribulation (1 Thess 4:16 with Matt 24:29) One is coming for the saints (john 14:1-3; Luke 21:36; 1 Cor 15:23, 51-54; 1 Thess 4:13-17; 2 Thess 2:1, 7; Phil3:21; Col 3:4) and the other is coming to earth with the saints to set up the kingdom (Zech 14:5; Jude 14; Rev 19:11-21)

It is interesting because if you read all of Psalms chapter 2 it is clearly a conversation with 3 people (The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.) I just don't know which one is talking when but they are describing how people fight against God and how they are scoffing at the evil world that is so foolish

The Antichrist is going to get a lot of the earthly inhabitants to actually wage war against God like he did in the kingdom he ruled over in the dateless past. History repeats itself. This is what transhumanism will probably do. Create Satan's army to wage war with Christ when he returns.

The battle of Armageddon will not be an ordinary battle between two sets of earthly nations. It will be a battle between the armies of heaven under Christ and the armies of the Earth under the dragon, the beat and the false prophet. On the side of Christ will be earthly Israel (Zech 14:1-15), the angels of God (Matt 25:31-45; 2 Thess 1 :7-10) and the resurrected saints of ages (Zech 14:1-5; Jude 14; Rev 19:11-21). On the side of Antichrist there will be the devil and his angels and demons (Rev 12:7-12; 16:13-16; Rev 20:1-3) the ten kingdoms who will have been recently conquered by Antichrist (Dan 11:44; Ezek 38, 39; Rev 16:12) and many other nations that will co-operate with the Antichrist through the ministry of the three unclean frogs (Rev 16:13-16; Zech 14:1-5, 16; Ezek 38, 39)

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Bob link

3/20/2015 02:19:50 pm

Steve, sorry wrong with the Word...
Daniel 12 King James Version (KJV)

12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

5 Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.

6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

Min

4/17/2016 12:45:49 am

Steve I couldn't have said it better than that. I kept saying throughout the video, what about 1Thes4:18.

Josh

2/19/2015 02:14:30 pm

Michael

5/31/2015 07:46:41 am

All believers in the Jesuit origin "pre-trib rapture teaching"
need to watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACcYcPfHHJs

And this vid is but the tip of the iceberg exposing the lie

The Deep Origins of the Rapture Doctrine!

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